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Tuesday 15 July 2014
Ramana Maharshi:
Narayana Iyer once had a significant conversation with Bhagavan about the power of an enlightened being to change the karma of devotees if he so wished. Bhagavan responded by saying that a jnani couldn’t possibly have any desire to change anything. The conversation explored the term ‘sankalpa’, which is usually translated as ‘will’ or ‘intention’.
‘One day when I [Narayana Iyer] was sitting by the side of Bhagavan I felt so miserable that I put the following question to him: “Is the sankalpa of the jnani not capable of warding off the destinies of the devotees?”
‘Bhagavan smiled and said: “Does the jnani have a sankalpa at all? The jivanmukta [liberated being] can have no sankalpas whatsoever. It is just impossible.”
‘I continued: “Then what is the fate of all us who pray to you to have grace on us and save us? Will we not be benefited or saved by sitting in front of you, or by coming to you?…”
‘Bhagavan turned graciously to me and said: “…a person’s bad karma will be considerably reduced while he is in the presence of a jnani. A jnani has no sankalpas but his sannidhi [presence] is the most powerful force. He need not have sankalpa, but his presiding presence, the most powerful force, can do wonders: save souls, give peace of mind, even give liberation to ripe souls. Your prayers are not answered by him but absorbed by his presence. His presence saves you, wards off the karma and gives you the boons as the case may be, [but] involuntarily. The jnani does save the devotees, but not by sankalpa, which is non-existent in him, only through his presiding presence, his sannidhi.”’ (The Mountain Path 1968, p. 236, reprinted in The Power of the Presence, part one, pp. 81-2)
Narayana Iyer once had a significant conversation with Bhagavan about the power of an enlightened being to change the karma of devotees if he so wished. Bhagavan responded by saying that a jnani couldn’t possibly have any desire to change anything. The conversation explored the term ‘sankalpa’, which is usually translated as ‘will’ or ‘intention’.
‘One day when I [Narayana Iyer] was sitting by the side of Bhagavan I felt so miserable that I put the following question to him: “Is the sankalpa of the jnani not capable of warding off the destinies of the devotees?”
‘Bhagavan smiled and said: “Does the jnani have a sankalpa at all? The jivanmukta [liberated being] can have no sankalpas whatsoever. It is just impossible.”
‘I continued: “Then what is the fate of all us who pray to you to have grace on us and save us? Will we not be benefited or saved by sitting in front of you, or by coming to you?…”
‘Bhagavan turned graciously to me and said: “…a person’s bad karma will be considerably reduced while he is in the presence of a jnani. A jnani has no sankalpas but his sannidhi [presence] is the most powerful force. He need not have sankalpa, but his presiding presence, the most powerful force, can do wonders: save souls, give peace of mind, even give liberation to ripe souls. Your prayers are not answered by him but absorbed by his presence. His presence saves you, wards off the karma and gives you the boons as the case may be, [but] involuntarily. The jnani does save the devotees, but not by sankalpa, which is non-existent in him, only through his presiding presence, his sannidhi.”’ (The Mountain Path 1968, p. 236, reprinted in The Power of the Presence, part one, pp. 81-2)
Never leaving home, We are searching for the way home! ~ Nisargadatta Maharaj
"You are where you have always been". ~ Sri Ramana Maharshi
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